zimbra-opensuseZimbra is my favorite mail server and collaboration suite application. I have installed Zimbra with openSUSE 10.2 and openSUSE 10.3 in various place : from school, university and academic environment into enterprise scale implementation.
Our latest event on Indonesian openSUSE community was organizing Zimbra Training for enterprise implementation. The training was very successful and we plan for another event in first half of 2009.
So, I’m very disappointed to know there was no Zimbra binary builds for openSUSE 11.0 and openSUSE 11.1. There was also no binary builds for openSUSE 10.3 but I could applied binary builds for openSUSE 10.2 on openSUSE 10.3 with small cheated without any problem. I could not applied binary builds for openSUSE 10.2 into openSUSE 11.x because there were such problem with Perl 5.10.
Actually, Perl 5.10 problem is not a big problem for me because it’s also hit another distribution that come with latest Perl version, Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex as example. What makes me very disappointed is about Zimbra plan for ending openSUSE support for their new release, Zimbra 6.x. I’ve searched Zimbra forum and found that they decided the decision because there were few binary download and implementation on openSUSE. openSUSE binary have been downloaded for about 84 times (CMIIW), comparing with over one thousand on another distro.
I’m pretty shocked… Is this true ? Is this because Zimbra was not popular on openSUSE community or is this because too few people implementing Zimbra with openSUSE ? Is this because Novell has another product on groupware area as well as Zimbra : groupwise ?
Well, it might be a fact and Zimbra team has no option for continue their support because this fact, although openSUSE is second popular distro regarding Distrowatch statistic and frequently awarded as a solid distro by many reviewers.
If you wish to push Zimbra to think more about their decision, please joined the Zimbra forum, discuss on various openSUSE thread, especially for this thread.
Dijichi2, a man behind Zimbra Community Builds has initiated Zimbra Community Builds for openSUSE port. Take a look for his documentation and try with yourself. I’m not a developer but I will try to build the community builds based on his documentation. If the community builds has enough response, I believe that it would also give a strong signal that openSUSE has a large end user who has interested with Zimbra, so Zimbra team should consider their decision ending openSUSE support for next version as mentioned by John Holder, a Zimbra employee :

“With that all said, I have specifially asked our PM team to reconsider OpenSUSE. This doesn’t mean that they will, but it does mean that they will look at this thread, download/install numbers, and employee resources, and make the decision.
Whether they do change their mind or not, this thread is an example that we do care and do listen.”

There would be another question : Why I think it may be important to see openSUSE support in next version of Zimbra. There were 2 reason :

  1. I don’t like migration option as suggested by Zimbra team. They suggested another distro if I want to implementing Zimbra, especially for latest version. I would prefer choose another Zimbra complement than remove openSUSE and replace with another distro. It’s not about a crazy fall-in-love with openSUSE. I have try another distro before choose openSUSE as my primary choice
  2. In openSUSE marketing concern, providing Zimbra binary for openSUSE will attracting new users who need replacement for their Microsoft Exchange. Remember that Zimbra has an advantage as they have dual licensing : Commercial for NE and open source licensing for community edition. Community edition is free of charge.

Let’s see for a few days, is this possible to builds Zimbra binary for openSUSE by myself :-).

20 thoughts on “Zimbra and openSUSE Thread on Zimbra Forum”
  1. This is bad news I’m hearing. My published email above currently run on OpenSuse 10.2 and Zimbra. Thus far OpenSuse has been my server OS of choice (Ubuntu my desktop) as I am not a Linux Guru but depend on it both personally and Professionally. So managing many servers through ssh and Yast with a VMware Server layer make it easy for me and my team to create and maintain servers. With Zimbra “not” supporting OpenSuse will encourage us to take a re-look at other MTA when we replace Exchange enterprise wide.
    As a CTO I believe in the right tool for the right job and knowing Linux 100% does not always make sense. I need a tool that stays up and is easy to manage and OpenSuse with Yast is that right tool “for me”.

  2. The problem is more Zimbra than openSUSE.
    I am personally not a fan of Zimbra. I don’t like such a big bundle of software like Zimbra, with presetings and software that are not provided by the distribution.
    It doesn’t give me enough visibility or flexibility.

  3. The problem is more Zimbra than openSUSE.
    I am personally not a fan of Zimbra. I don’t like such a big bundle of software like Zimbra, with presetings and software that are not provided by the distribution.
    It doesn’t give me enough visibility or flexibility.

  4. 84 downloads? I can’t imagine this is true. Is it possible, that people prefers to install Zimbra on 10.3 (with –platform-override) and then version+distribution is not send during zimbra notification at the end of installation? I would bet on this.In this case there would be thousands of unknown distribution installations and this is openSUSE 10.3 😉
    We have great openSUSE Build Service where we can build any package (including Zimbra) for several targets (including Fedora and Debian). One can look into this …

  5. 84 downloads? I can’t imagine this is true. Is it possible, that people prefers to install Zimbra on 10.3 (with –platform-override) and then version+distribution is not send during zimbra notification at the end of installation? I would bet on this.In this case there would be thousands of unknown distribution installations and this is openSUSE 10.3 😉
    We have great openSUSE Build Service where we can build any package (including Zimbra) for several targets (including Fedora and Debian). One can look into this …

  6. @Louie,
    Yes, I agree with you. If Zimbra tend to leave openSUSE and I have no choice to used Zimbra on openSUSE (both by try to build own Zimbra or waiting for community builds), I would rather to replace Zimbra than remove openSUSE. I have so many benefit with openSUSE, and it would be difficult to leave openSUSE just for Zimbra 🙁

  7. @Louie,
    Yes, I agree with you. If Zimbra tend to leave openSUSE and I have no choice to used Zimbra on openSUSE (both by try to build own Zimbra or waiting for community builds), I would rather to replace Zimbra than remove openSUSE. I have so many benefit with openSUSE, and it would be difficult to leave openSUSE just for Zimbra 🙁

  8. @Phocean,
    I’m fans of Zimbra 🙂 , and I’m trying to build Zimbra community builds. Let we see if this is possible and worth to try…

  9. @Phocean,
    I’m fans of Zimbra 🙂 , and I’m trying to build Zimbra community builds. Let we see if this is possible and worth to try…

  10. @Michal Zugec,
    Sorry, according to Zimbra (http://www.zimbra.com/forums/etc/23515-yahoo-layoffs.html), it was about 41 times install 🙁
    I’m sure it’s not true, because I myself has installed and notified Zimbra about my installation more than 50X and it was not a testing. It’s for production server.
    But, it seem that the decision is on Zimbra side and the last chance to make openSUSE as a good choice for Zimbra is getting involved in Zimbra Community Builds which started by Dijichi.

  11. @Michal Zugec,
    Sorry, according to Zimbra (http://www.zimbra.com/forums/etc/23515-yahoo-layoffs.html), it was about 41 times install 🙁
    I’m sure it’s not true, because I myself has installed and notified Zimbra about my installation more than 50X and it was not a testing. It’s for production server.
    But, it seem that the decision is on Zimbra side and the last chance to make openSUSE as a good choice for Zimbra is getting involved in Zimbra Community Builds which started by Dijichi.

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    God will appreciate it.

  13. Nothing seems to be easier than seeing someone whom you can help but not helping.
    I suggest we start giving it a try. Give love to the ones that need it.
    God will appreciate it.

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